When one crazed or ideologically obsessed gunman starts shooting in Arizona, people condemn him and start bemoaning their society. How about a place with ten million people like that who are treated as heroes?Read the whole thing.
America this week is awash in a huge and passionate debate over whether angry political disagreements and harsh criticisms of certain views or groups inspired the attack on an American congresswoman (Jewish and a strong supporter of Israel, by the way). I’m not going to enter into that argument right now but I want to point out the Middle Eastern ramifications of what's going on here.
Every day for more than a half century, Arabs and Muslims have been inundated every day with hatred for Israel, America, the West, Jews, and often Christians. You can read transcripts of Syrian broadcasts or Palestinian speeches from 50 years ago that sound just like what was said in the same places yesterday by powerful and/or respectable figures and institutions.
Let’s say that the proportion of lies, slanders, and incitement in the American discourse is one-tenth of one percent of all the words spoken on controversial issues. The equivalent figure for the Middle East is well over 95 percent.
In addition to that tone, there is not only a total lack of balance but an absence of the other side altogether.
And in addition to those two points, the level of factual accuracy has a huge gap separating it from reality. (Though, admittedly, that gap has been narrowing in recent years as Western standards decline).
And in addition to those three points, while extremists tend to be marginal in the United States, they are in control--either politically or at least rhetorically--throughout most of the Arabic-speaking and Muslim-majority worlds.
Monday, January 10, 2011
- Monday, January 10, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
A must read from Barry Rubin:
- Monday, January 10, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
His writings might meander, but they never fail to inform. A small sample:
And while he mentions that it looks like a video game, that is one great idea that someone could do - a video-game that shows the difficulty of fighting the IDF way, trying to avoid civilians while hitting terrorists pretending to be civilian. While, at the same time, worried that the rockets you are targeting don't end up hitting your own family.
God only knows how Hezbollah trains its fighters, but I have a pretty good idea what the Israelis are up to because Abe Lapson, an IDF director of combat engineering, hosted me at the urban warfare training center in the northern Negev near the border with Gaza.
They built a scale model city out there in the desert where Israeli soldiers engage in sophisticated combat exercises. They fight each other in these exercises, so it’s always a challenge. Trained Israeli soldiers are far more dangerous than any army—even Hezbollah—the modern Arab world has yet produced.
I saw the skyline of the “city” as we approached on a road through desert, and from a distance it almost looks real. Up close it’s different.
“It almost looks like a set for a video game,” I said.
Lapson chuckled and said, “But it’s real.”
I could see everything from the control tower. The buildings are smaller and farther apart on the outskirts than they are in the center, just like a real village or town in the West Bank, Gaza, or Lebanon. And I have to say they did a pretty good job with the realism. Pyrotechnic teams set off explosions. Vehicles emit different colors of smoke depending on what kind of damage they’ve supposedly taken. Walls have simulated blast holes because doors and windows are often booby-trapped, forcing soldiers to create alternate entrances.
I’ve never been to a Hezbollah training camp, although I did ask Hezbollah officials if I could see one before they blacklisted me for “writing against the party.” They refused. Still, I’m certain they don’t have dummies representing civilians who aren’t to be touched.
The Israelis do, though. They place mannequins on the grounds dressed in the clothes of civilians and peacekeepers as well as enemy soldiers and terrorists.
“The other side includes both hostiles and civilians,” Lapson said, “and the hostiles will often embed themselves among the civilians. We go over a large number of what-if scenarios. We imbue an ethical and moral backbone in all our soldiers from the very beginning, and we have humanitarian officers with our infantry troops. We take extra precautions, even when it puts our own troops in danger.”Read the whole thing.
And while he mentions that it looks like a video game, that is one great idea that someone could do - a video-game that shows the difficulty of fighting the IDF way, trying to avoid civilians while hitting terrorists pretending to be civilian. While, at the same time, worried that the rockets you are targeting don't end up hitting your own family.
- Monday, January 10, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
From RT.com:
The West Bank city of Ramallah is naming its streets to mark its 100th anniversary, but some of the choices are causing controversy as they honor people involved in planning terrorist acts.
This naming is part of a regeneration scheme started two years ago, but it is already being seen by some as a sign of growing extremism.
Before the scheme was launched, there were no street names, street signs or house numbers that could help people navigate around the city.
Janet Mikhail, Mayor of Ramallah, says it is “a human right for citizens to know where they are.”
Thus Yasser Arafat gets a square. And a street is called after the neighbourhood Al-Nuzha that used to exist in Arab Jaffa in the 1930s. Another street called Al-Awdeh, meaning ‘return’, is a call for Palestinian refugees to return to Israel.
The criteria for choosing a name are simple: heroes, places, and ideas supported by the Palestinian people.
“We don’t differentiate between Hamas or Fatah,” explains Janet Mikhail.
If anything, the opposite, as members of both organizations fighting for liberation are glorified. Which might surprise those who think the modern city of Ramallah would shy away from praising stalwarts of Hamas, an organization considered by many world powers as terrorist.
One of the thoroughfares is named after chief Hamas bomb maker – Yahya Ayyash, dubbed “the engineer”. For three years he was Israel’s most wanted man for masterminding suicide bombings that killed 90 Israelis, until he himself was killed.
As political analyst Khalil Shaheen explains, “anyone who was killed by the Israelis, even in a car accident, is considered a martyr”.
Yahya Ayyash was killed by the Israeli internal security service after they tricked a friend of his into giving him a cell phone that was booby trapped. Fourteen years on his family is as proud as ever.
“I’m very pleased they’ve named roads and streets after him,” says Yahya Ayyash’s mother, Aisha. “My son is in my heart and I miss him. He’s the hero of Palestine.”
Surprisingly, not all the streets names are Palestinian. One street is called after Rachel Corrie, an American activist who was killed by an Israeli bulldozer during a demonstration in Gaza in 2003. Rachel was part of the International Solidarity Movement, a group that, as Israelis charge, aids Hamas and other Palestinian extremist groups.
The decision to name a busy street in Ramallah after her was anonymous.
Such attention, even to extremist groups, may be explained by the growing desire among Palestinians to change the current course of events.
”People in the West Bank are fed up with the way they have been ruled during the past 15 years and they’re eager to try something else,” believes Khalil Shaheen.
Polls show Hamas growing in popularity in the West Bank, while talks between rival Palestinian faction Fatah and Israel deadlock.
“Hamas is changing, Hamas is trying to speak in the language the West understands,” argues Shaheen.
And as the new street signs go up in the city, it is becoming more and more clear that Hamas is also speaking in a language Ramallah Palestinians understand.
- Monday, January 10, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
Palestine Today reports that the mayor of Jabalia met with a Turkish man, Hanafy Osama Sinan, who had been on the Mavi Marmara.
Sinan traveled to Gaza with an aid convoy.
The mayor said that he would establish a park on 6 dunums west of the city in memory of the terrorists who were killed on the ship, as well as naming streets after them.
Amazing how they find land when they want to!
Sinan traveled to Gaza with an aid convoy.
The mayor said that he would establish a park on 6 dunums west of the city in memory of the terrorists who were killed on the ship, as well as naming streets after them.
Amazing how they find land when they want to!
- Monday, January 10, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
I saw a number of Arabic newspapers report breathlessly that the US is using 250,000 bullets for every insurgent they kill in Iraq, and they are forced to import more from Israel because of a bullet shortage.
I traced the story back to this article, printed today, in the Belfast Telegraph.
Interestingly, that same article was published in The Independent - in September 2005.
Maybe I shouldn't be so harsh. Instead, I should just recycle some of my own blog posts from September 2005 that could have been written today:
I traced the story back to this article, printed today, in the Belfast Telegraph.
Interestingly, that same article was published in The Independent - in September 2005.
Maybe I shouldn't be so harsh. Instead, I should just recycle some of my own blog posts from September 2005 that could have been written today:
More words of peace from the PA
And, completely off topic:
- Monday, January 10, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
Egyptian newspaper Al-Mesryoon has an exclusive report that tries to implicate Israel in the deadly Coptic church bombing.
According to the story, the explosive used in the church was ten times more powerful than TNT and it is used by some of the countries in the region, particularly including Israel. They claim that this is the same explosive used by Israel to blow up some cars that had Hamas members.
They deny that it was a suicide bomber, saying instead that it was a remotely controlled device, either through a timer or a mobile phone.
This report is spreading pretty quickly through the Arabic media.
According to the story, the explosive used in the church was ten times more powerful than TNT and it is used by some of the countries in the region, particularly including Israel. They claim that this is the same explosive used by Israel to blow up some cars that had Hamas members.
They deny that it was a suicide bomber, saying instead that it was a remotely controlled device, either through a timer or a mobile phone.
This report is spreading pretty quickly through the Arabic media.
- Monday, January 10, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
I just saw the actual document that Ha'aretz was referring to in my previous post.
It proves beyond any doubt that EU diplomats are clueless about Arab goals. They are so caught up in their diplomatic bubble that they are willfully ignorant of how Arabs really feel, and they can therefore publish complete rubbish.
For example:
Did the EU, even once, say anything against the criminal bulldozing of priceless archaeological treasures by the Waqf on the Temple Mount? Or is the Waqf allowed to act unilaterally, while only Jewish decisions can be vetoed by the Arabs?
If it was up to the Waqf, the Western Wall and the Old City would be Judenrein. But the EU wants Israel to consult a racist hate organization before doing anything.
Unbelievable.
It proves beyond any doubt that EU diplomats are clueless about Arab goals. They are so caught up in their diplomatic bubble that they are willfully ignorant of how Arabs really feel, and they can therefore publish complete rubbish.
For example:
Developments at the Haram al-Sharif, or Temple Mount, are significant in several respects - they are a cause of tension locally between the various communities, but also receive attention globally,such as the large demonstrations by Muslims whenever they perceive the Muslim position in Jerusalem to be undercut. For this reason, this site is one of the most sensitive in Jerusalem and therefore, any event happening on it or around it is likely to have serious repercussions.
In 2010, the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount area continued to see heightened tension and inflammatory actions which led to riots and demonstrations in Palestinian neighbourhoods. Repeated provocative visits of the Haram area by Jewish radical political and religious groups, which continue to occur during 2010, are highly problematic. On several occasions Israeli forces entered Al Aqsa Mosque and confronted stone-throwing Muslims. The perceived threat to religious places promotes rumours which in turn can lead to violent encounters between the various groups.This is a great example of subconscious liberal racism towards Arabs. Every Israeli action is "provocative" and every Arab riot is an understandable result of Israeli actions. As is always the case, Arab violence is justified and even inevitable, while Israeli and Jewish actions are designed purely to anger Arabs. Only the Jews have the ability to be responsible for their actions - terrible, awful actions like wanting to peacefully visit their own holiest place, or to support archaeological digs that show the Jewish history in the holiest city on Earth. How provocative! From the EU diplomats' perspectives, violent Arab reaction to such events is inevitable and Arabs are not responsible.
The disputes regarding various construction projects (e.g.“archeological tunnels”, recent plans to alter of the Western Wall plaza) serve as examples of a lack of consensus-building by Israel around those projects in sensitive areas of the city.Do they honestly think that the Islamic religious leadership would allow Israel to do anything at all that tacitly accepts that Jews have the right to live in Jerusalem? How clueless can you be?
Work on the Mughrabi Gate has proven a particular example of this in 2010. The Waqf, the Islamic body responsible for the Haram al-Sharif compound, has expressed concern regarding the construction by the Israeli Authorities, without their agreement, of a new bridge to replace the collapsed ramp leading to the Mugrabi Gate. Work on the Mugrabi Gate, the passageway between the Wailing Wall Plaza and the Temple Mount / Haram al Sharif, started again in September after the Jerusalem District Court's decision to authorize the work. The Waqf believe that the damage caused to the ramp is negligible and could be fixed without replacing the whole structure. They suspect this may be used as an opportunity to undertake new excavations under the ramp or as seemed to be originally planned (prior to the Court’s ruling against it) to expand the area of the Wailing Wall Plaza. A new plan for the Mughrabi Gate, revealed in November this year, seems to be less far-reaching in the sense that it does not include any expansion of the Plaza. The Waqf, however, was again not consulted in the process.The rocket scientists of the EU diplomatic corps want to give veto power to the Waqf - an organization that is as extremist and anti-semitic as possible - over everything that the municipality of Jerusalem undertakes for the good of the city. Strengthening extremism against moderation - what a great diplomatic initiative!
Did the EU, even once, say anything against the criminal bulldozing of priceless archaeological treasures by the Waqf on the Temple Mount? Or is the Waqf allowed to act unilaterally, while only Jewish decisions can be vetoed by the Arabs?
If it was up to the Waqf, the Western Wall and the Old City would be Judenrein. But the EU wants Israel to consult a racist hate organization before doing anything.
Unbelievable.
- Monday, January 10, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
Ha'aretz has a very vague report:
Much of that is the fault of Israeli governments that have reportedly already offered significant parts of Jerusalem to the PLO, implying that somehow it really isn't as important to Jews as it is to Arabs.
Even so, the GOI should be doing what it can to stop this impression of inevitability that a Palestinian Arab state must have Jerusalem as its capital. When one looks at the issue dispassionately, it becomes clear that this is not a political need - but a form of blackmail.
It hardly needs to be mentioned that Jerusalem was never the political capital nor religious capital of any Arab entity. The demand for Jerusalem has always been the demand to strip the Jewish state of its spiritual center, not because of any objective value that is placed on Jerusalem by the Arab world or by "historic" Palestinian Arabs.
Decades of listening to the mantra, started by Arafat, of "an independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital" has convinced gullible Westerners that somehow Jerusalem has inherent value to Palestinian Arabs, rather than tactical value as a means to weaken the emotional and spiritual hold that Jews have on Israel.
The Arabic press makes this clear. To give a minor recent example, the Al Aqsa Foundation was quoted favorably in the Palestinian Authority's official newspaper when it complained about the iPhone "iKotel" app - a simple app that shows a live video feed of the Western Wall. The reason for the consternation is that the app helps strengthen Jews' emotional connection to the Wall, and this is what frightens them most of all.
The unstated but nevertheless consistent policy of the Palestinian Authority is to strip any vestiges of Jewish connection to the Land of Israel. This is why they are most adamant about Jewish holy places in Judea and Samaria. This is why they created - out of whole cloth - a fake "historic" mosque in Rachel's Tomb. It is because an emotional connection to a place is much harder to fight against than logical or legal arguments. Places that throughout history were ignored by the Arabs have taken on brand-new importance only when Jews asserted control over them. (And during the 19 years of Arab rule over them, their importance again faded into virtual invisibility, to be resurrected in 1967.)
To gullible Westerners, the fake emotional connection that Palestinian Arabs assert consistently over holy places is much stronger than the cool-headed, logical connection that modern Israeli leaders have paid lip service to.
This was not always the case. Guess who wrote these words:
In fact, the writings of all of the major early secular Zionist leaders showed a much deeper emotional connection to the land of Israel than we have seen from any prime minister since Menachem Begin.
And this is what frightens the Palestinian Arabs the most - because their ultimate goal is still to drive the Jews out of the land, one way or another. Jews who are emotional about their land are not likely to leave as those who look at Israel as just another Western country.
So Palestinian Arabs make Jerusalem a central issue (along with "return," something they have not wavered on.) And their repetition of its importance convinces Westerners against all reason.
Which brings up a bizarre situation where Western diplomats are apparently demanding that a city be divided, that thousands of residents be forced to leave their homes, and that Jews are estranged from their heritage - all in the name of "peace."
That "peace" has no relationship with reality. It is a form of Mafia-style blackmail. The Arabs are telling the world, almost explicitly, that unless they get their demands met - and Jerusalem is only an example - the result will be Arab-initiated violence. Both in Israel and worldwide.
This is the real reason the EU is caving to a demand that has no basis in history or logic. There is no real reason why "Palestine"'s capital cannot be Ramallah. It is incredible hypocrisy that the same countries that demand that Tel Aviv be the capital of the Jewish state also demand that Jerusalem be the capital of a state whose "people" simply did not exist as such a mere hundred years ago.
These two factors - Palestinian Arab demand to strip Israel of its Jewish soul, and EU fears of terror and "an end to peace"- are what causes insane developments like the one Ha'aretz is reporting to seem almost normal.
It is up to the Israeli government to understand this and expose it. They are failing, badly.
East Jerusalem should be treated as the capital of the Palestinian state, according to a report compiled by the heads of European diplomatic missions in Jerusalem and Ramallah. The report includes several other unprecedented recommendations to the European Union regarding its attitude toward East Jerusalem.If this is true, it represents another major political gaffe by the government of Israel in putting forth its case.
The European diplomats, mainly consuls, also recommend that EU officials and politicians refuse to visit Israeli government offices that are located beyond the Green Line and that they decline any Israeli security in the Old City and elsewhere in East Jerusalem.
The report, which was completed last month, was sent to the EU's main foreign policy body, the Political and Security Committee in Brussels. It was apparently not released at the time due to the sensitivity of its content.
The diplomats' report also discusses the possibility of preventing "violent settlers in East Jerusalem" from being granted entry into EU countries. In the area of commerce, it recommends encouraging a boycott of Israeli products from East Jerusalem.
Much of that is the fault of Israeli governments that have reportedly already offered significant parts of Jerusalem to the PLO, implying that somehow it really isn't as important to Jews as it is to Arabs.
Even so, the GOI should be doing what it can to stop this impression of inevitability that a Palestinian Arab state must have Jerusalem as its capital. When one looks at the issue dispassionately, it becomes clear that this is not a political need - but a form of blackmail.
It hardly needs to be mentioned that Jerusalem was never the political capital nor religious capital of any Arab entity. The demand for Jerusalem has always been the demand to strip the Jewish state of its spiritual center, not because of any objective value that is placed on Jerusalem by the Arab world or by "historic" Palestinian Arabs.
Decades of listening to the mantra, started by Arafat, of "an independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital" has convinced gullible Westerners that somehow Jerusalem has inherent value to Palestinian Arabs, rather than tactical value as a means to weaken the emotional and spiritual hold that Jews have on Israel.
The Arabic press makes this clear. To give a minor recent example, the Al Aqsa Foundation was quoted favorably in the Palestinian Authority's official newspaper when it complained about the iPhone "iKotel" app - a simple app that shows a live video feed of the Western Wall. The reason for the consternation is that the app helps strengthen Jews' emotional connection to the Wall, and this is what frightens them most of all.
The unstated but nevertheless consistent policy of the Palestinian Authority is to strip any vestiges of Jewish connection to the Land of Israel. This is why they are most adamant about Jewish holy places in Judea and Samaria. This is why they created - out of whole cloth - a fake "historic" mosque in Rachel's Tomb. It is because an emotional connection to a place is much harder to fight against than logical or legal arguments. Places that throughout history were ignored by the Arabs have taken on brand-new importance only when Jews asserted control over them. (And during the 19 years of Arab rule over them, their importance again faded into virtual invisibility, to be resurrected in 1967.)
To gullible Westerners, the fake emotional connection that Palestinian Arabs assert consistently over holy places is much stronger than the cool-headed, logical connection that modern Israeli leaders have paid lip service to.
This was not always the case. Guess who wrote these words:
The city of Jerusalem-which became in the course of time, from the crowning of David until our own days, not merely the most precious and Holy City in the Land of Israel, but one of the most revered cities in the world is not mentioned at all in the Five Books of the Torah. Further, after the reign of David who captured the city Jerusalem from the Jebusites and made it the eternal capital of Israel and his son, King Solomon, built the Beit HaMikdash (Temple) within her. After Solomon died the people of Israel came to crown his son Rechavam, not in Jerusalem, but in Shechem. And of the forty years of David's reign, seven and a half he ruled in Hebron, while Jerusalem, though not mentioned at all in the Torah, was made by Israel's greatest king into the city of holiness.It was staunchly secular and anti-religious David Ben Gurion.
However, don't forget: the beginnings of Israel's greatest king were in Hebron, the city to which came the first Hebrew about eight hundred years before King David, and we will make a great and awful mistake if we fail to settle Hebron, neighbor and predecessor of Jerusalem, with a large Jewish settlement, constantly growing and expanding, very soon. This will also be a blessing to the Arab neighbors. Hebron is worthy to be Jerusalem's sister.
In fact, the writings of all of the major early secular Zionist leaders showed a much deeper emotional connection to the land of Israel than we have seen from any prime minister since Menachem Begin.
And this is what frightens the Palestinian Arabs the most - because their ultimate goal is still to drive the Jews out of the land, one way or another. Jews who are emotional about their land are not likely to leave as those who look at Israel as just another Western country.
So Palestinian Arabs make Jerusalem a central issue (along with "return," something they have not wavered on.) And their repetition of its importance convinces Westerners against all reason.
Which brings up a bizarre situation where Western diplomats are apparently demanding that a city be divided, that thousands of residents be forced to leave their homes, and that Jews are estranged from their heritage - all in the name of "peace."
That "peace" has no relationship with reality. It is a form of Mafia-style blackmail. The Arabs are telling the world, almost explicitly, that unless they get their demands met - and Jerusalem is only an example - the result will be Arab-initiated violence. Both in Israel and worldwide.
This is the real reason the EU is caving to a demand that has no basis in history or logic. There is no real reason why "Palestine"'s capital cannot be Ramallah. It is incredible hypocrisy that the same countries that demand that Tel Aviv be the capital of the Jewish state also demand that Jerusalem be the capital of a state whose "people" simply did not exist as such a mere hundred years ago.
These two factors - Palestinian Arab demand to strip Israel of its Jewish soul, and EU fears of terror and "an end to peace"- are what causes insane developments like the one Ha'aretz is reporting to seem almost normal.
It is up to the Israeli government to understand this and expose it. They are failing, badly.
Sunday, January 09, 2011
- Sunday, January 09, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
From IMRA, January 7:
Makor Rishon correspondent Ariel Kahane reports on the front page of today's edition that during the course of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's biannual presentation to the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee on Tuesday he said:This statement seems to have slipped under the radar of not only Israel's media but also the Arab media - which usually jumps to publicize anything like this.
"It should be remembered that we, as Jews, have been within the broad borders of the Land of Israel not tens and hundreds of years but instead thousands of years. When the Palestinians talk about historic rights they should remember that they have been there a shorter time. The rights of the Jews to Hebron and Beit El, Rachel's Tomb and Shilo, are greater and much more significant. Therefore these places should remain in our hands in any arrangement".
- Sunday, January 09, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
Just uploaded to MEMRI's YouTube channel:
(h/t Challah Hu Akbar)Following are excerpts from an interview with Wael Ramadhan, creator of an Egyptian-Syrian TV series about Cleopatra, which aired on Egyptian TV on November 18, 2010:
Wael Ramadhan: The [Roman] war against Cleopatra was Jewish in essence, and history repeats itself. The Romans had no territorial aspirations in Egypt in those days, and this is ignored by history and by many historians. The Romans were at war with the Parthians and the remnants of the Persian Empire, but they had no intention of waging war against Egypt.
But the Jews harbored resentment and pain, because of their expulsion from Egypt – when they were still called "Hebrew" – and they wanted to return to Egypt by force, in order to establish their presence there, but they did not have an opportunity to do so until that moment. So they recruited the help of the Romans.
This part of history is not mentioned in any Arab history book, but is the outcome of research I conducted myself, and this is my own perspective, which is unique and true.
Interviewer: Especially since it is based on sources that are...
Wael Ramadhan: On very important sources. [The Jews] financed the Romans, distracted them from their wars, and diverted them to Egypt. They failed in their attempt to get Julius Caesar to defeat Cleopatra. They failed to get Mark Antony to defeat Cleopatra. They had also financed the Mark Antony campaign. They failed in their efforts to completely control that region.
To this moment, they continue to try. History repeats itself. That is what should have been called the history of Cleopatra, and this was my approach when I made the "Cleopatra" series.
- Sunday, January 09, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
Firas Press reports that the former Special Adviser Yasser Arafat has, after months of painstaking research, determined the likely poison agent used to "assassinate" Arafat: Thallium.
According to the adviser, Bassam Abu Sharif, "British and European toxins experts are unfamiliar with this poison, but a specialist in criminal investigation on the murder by poison knows about it and and it is very effective, and there is no antidote to stop it after five hours of injection or being eaten."
Abu Sharif adds that "the expert who has done research confirmed that this poison works slowly to destroy the internal organs of the victim one after the other (liver - kidney - lung - and then the brain) and that the period of time to kill a man with this poison varies from person to person based on [various factors]. This period ranges from two to eight months, which gives an opportunity for offenders to escape from the crime scene."
The supposed "expert" looks like a scam artist who took money from Abu Sharif to pretend to unravel the mystery of how a man who died from AIDS can be credibly made to appear to have been poisoned by Israel. In fact, thallium poisoning usually is seen quite quickly and there is an antidote known to scientists since the 1960s - Prussian blue.
Oh well. Better luck next time!
(h/t Folderol)
According to the adviser, Bassam Abu Sharif, "British and European toxins experts are unfamiliar with this poison, but a specialist in criminal investigation on the murder by poison knows about it and and it is very effective, and there is no antidote to stop it after five hours of injection or being eaten."
Abu Sharif adds that "the expert who has done research confirmed that this poison works slowly to destroy the internal organs of the victim one after the other (liver - kidney - lung - and then the brain) and that the period of time to kill a man with this poison varies from person to person based on [various factors]. This period ranges from two to eight months, which gives an opportunity for offenders to escape from the crime scene."
The supposed "expert" looks like a scam artist who took money from Abu Sharif to pretend to unravel the mystery of how a man who died from AIDS can be credibly made to appear to have been poisoned by Israel. In fact, thallium poisoning usually is seen quite quickly and there is an antidote known to scientists since the 1960s - Prussian blue.
Oh well. Better luck next time!
(h/t Folderol)
- Sunday, January 09, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
- hasbara
- Sunday, January 09, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
- beoz, gideon levy, hasbara
Ha'aretz this morning has another article that twists the facts of the Abu Rahma case. This one, by Gideon Levy, blames the IDF for what he thinks is clear evidence that Jawaher Abu Rahma's death, and he calls the IDF spokespeople liars.
Now there is no doubt that the IDF has not handled this as well as they should have. But what is even more clear is that there is no way that a healthy person with no other medical condition will be killed by a weak concentration of tear gas that hovered for a few seconds from between 150 and 500 meters away, depending on the version of the story.
So I commented on the story:
I received two responses. The first one was from Darwish:
The second one was:
The funny thing is that my fact-based response, which anyone could Google, got seven "thumbs up" and five "thumbs down." (My original post also received a healthy number of "thumbs down.")
Now, why would anyone disapprove a post that gives the real research and unbiased information?
The only conclusion you can draw is that a lot of people are emotionally invested in the idea that the IDF is filed with murderers and liars, and any fact - no matter how tangential - that disturbs that meme is viewed somehow as a threat to their cherished viewpoint. Instead of shaking them up, it strengthens their resolve to fight.
In other words, logic and facts are useless. These people are following a religion, the religion of IDF-hatred, and convincing them otherwise is as useless as using logic against a Christian fundamentalist or an Apple Macintosh fan. One someone is emotionally invested, then - game over. This is why it is so difficult to find people who who publicly give out their opinions who are willing to admit to or correct their mistakes.
From a hasbara perspective, it is useless to try to convince the ideologues that they are wrong. Practically none of them can listen to facts that contradict their worldview without getting offended, and that very offense shuts down whatever little ability they may have had to listen to logic. It is a form of primitive flight or fight.
I am convinced, however, that most people do not have any strong opinions, and sort of go with the flow - whatever they glean from the headlines. These are the people that need to be targeted with facts - and with soundbites, posters, videos, and so on. When going into battle against the frothing haters like Levy and his fans, the important thing is to remember who the audience is.
It isn't the other side. It's the lurkers.
Now there is no doubt that the IDF has not handled this as well as they should have. But what is even more clear is that there is no way that a healthy person with no other medical condition will be killed by a weak concentration of tear gas that hovered for a few seconds from between 150 and 500 meters away, depending on the version of the story.
So I commented on the story:
Never in history has anyone been documented of dying from CS tear gas inhalation outdoors - let alone from 150 meters away from the gas source. Never. It is essentially impossible to breathe in a lethal concentration of CS gas for the amount of time necessary for a healthy person to die in a ventilated area. Levy and Haaretz, by insisting otherwise, are the liars.
I received two responses. The first one was from Darwish:
Thank you for clearing that up. Now can you please list your credentials to lend support to your stated "facts."So Ha'aretz has scientific credentials that I lack. I didn't know that.
The second one was:
How do you know all this? Researched intensively on tear gas use over the past 50 years have you? Doctorate in the subject? Even if this poor girl did have an underlying condition, it was evidently the gas which led to her death. Whether 99.9% of the population would not have died under the same circumstances is really not the issue. THe IDF should step up and take responsibility. Their constant evasion of responsibility is totally counterproductive.So I answered:
Sources? Sure!(I had first tried putting in URLs to the blog, which Ha'aretz rejected.)
Physicians for Human Rights 1989 paper on tear gas
Archives of Toxicology vol 77 number 10 (misquoted by Haaretz on Friday)
BMJ June 2009
And, finally, Prof. Dr. Uwe Heinrich in his paper on CS at Waco said "There are no reports on human death related to CS exposure" in 2000.
Haaretz apparently doesn't let me put in URLs, but the reports are out there - IF you care about the truth and not simply finding fault with Israel.
The funny thing is that my fact-based response, which anyone could Google, got seven "thumbs up" and five "thumbs down." (My original post also received a healthy number of "thumbs down.")
Now, why would anyone disapprove a post that gives the real research and unbiased information?
The only conclusion you can draw is that a lot of people are emotionally invested in the idea that the IDF is filed with murderers and liars, and any fact - no matter how tangential - that disturbs that meme is viewed somehow as a threat to their cherished viewpoint. Instead of shaking them up, it strengthens their resolve to fight.
In other words, logic and facts are useless. These people are following a religion, the religion of IDF-hatred, and convincing them otherwise is as useless as using logic against a Christian fundamentalist or an Apple Macintosh fan. One someone is emotionally invested, then - game over. This is why it is so difficult to find people who who publicly give out their opinions who are willing to admit to or correct their mistakes.
From a hasbara perspective, it is useless to try to convince the ideologues that they are wrong. Practically none of them can listen to facts that contradict their worldview without getting offended, and that very offense shuts down whatever little ability they may have had to listen to logic. It is a form of primitive flight or fight.
I am convinced, however, that most people do not have any strong opinions, and sort of go with the flow - whatever they glean from the headlines. These are the people that need to be targeted with facts - and with soundbites, posters, videos, and so on. When going into battle against the frothing haters like Levy and his fans, the important thing is to remember who the audience is.
It isn't the other side. It's the lurkers.
- Sunday, January 09, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
Chile has joined other South American countries in recognizing "Palestine" - but this recognition is different than that of Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador and Uruguay. While those other countries mentioned the imaginary "1967 borders" as the boundaries of the state, Chile specifically didn't:
Chile was heavily lobbied by its large Palestinian Christian community to recognize "Palestine" on the other side of the Green Line - and it evidently refused, instead echoing the wording of UN Security Council Resolution 242 which imply that the 1949 armistice lines are not going to be the final borders of Israel.
The State of Chile has always and consistently supported the right of the Palestinian people to establish itself as an independent state coexisting in peace with the State of Israel. It has also fully endorsed the right of Israel to exist within secure and internationally recognized borders.It says nothing about the borders of the state.
Chile was heavily lobbied by its large Palestinian Christian community to recognize "Palestine" on the other side of the Green Line - and it evidently refused, instead echoing the wording of UN Security Council Resolution 242 which imply that the 1949 armistice lines are not going to be the final borders of Israel.
- Sunday, January 09, 2011
- Elder of Ziyon
Some stuff, new and not so new...
Melanie Phillip's excellent speech on how Israel must treat delegitimization (from last month)
The IDF is going on the record the Jawaher Abu Rahma did not die from tear gas. Not as many specifics as I would like, though.
The IDF also shows video from last Friday's Bil'in protest, showing that they wait for the stone throwing and fence-cutting before shooting tear gas.
The JCPA has a paper on Turkey's disappearing Jewish community.
The flying Mossad agent is being freed from Saudi Arabia!
And for those going to the counter-protest in New York today, please take pictures and video - especially if any of my posters are being used :)
Melanie Phillip's excellent speech on how Israel must treat delegitimization (from last month)
The IDF is going on the record the Jawaher Abu Rahma did not die from tear gas. Not as many specifics as I would like, though.
The IDF also shows video from last Friday's Bil'in protest, showing that they wait for the stone throwing and fence-cutting before shooting tear gas.
The JCPA has a paper on Turkey's disappearing Jewish community.
The flying Mossad agent is being freed from Saudi Arabia!
And for those going to the counter-protest in New York today, please take pictures and video - especially if any of my posters are being used :)
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