ARIKAT: I have a quick question on Mr. Netanyahu’s speech at the United Nations at UNGA last Friday. He showed a map that completely erases the Palestinians. I wonder if you saw the map and I wonder if you have any comment on it.MR MILLER: I did see it. I’m not going to get into any discussion about the map that the prime minister chose to use. I will say that the President has been clear, this administration has been clear that the United States will continue to support a two-state solution.QUESTION: So it doesn’t bother you at all that the map shows the Palestinians just evaporated and so on? I mean, isn’t that like a cause for concern, a cause for saying “that’s our position and we state it very strongly; there will be no normalization without it or anything of such” – or just maybe a mishap on part of the prime minister?MR MILLER: I did just state what our position is. In addition to my just stating what our position is, that we support a two-state solution
Showing posts with label maps of Palestine. Show all posts
Showing posts with label maps of Palestine. Show all posts
Tuesday, September 26, 2023
- Tuesday, September 26, 2023
- Elder of Ziyon
- disputed territories, erasing Israel, Judea-Samaria, maps of Palestine, Netanyahu, PalArab lies, Said Arikat, StateDept, two-state solution, West Bank
Whether the US or Palestinians like it, Israel still claims that Judea and Samaria are disputed territories, not occupied, and as such there is nothing wrong with an Israeli map including them as part of Israel before there is a peace agreement. (Admittedly, Gaza should not have been included in this map.)
His map of 1948 that showed an Israel that included the entire British Mandate could arguably include all of the territories because of the legal concept of uti possidetis juris which gave Israel, as the only state that existed after the 1948 war, the presumed borders of the entire Mandate.
But the PLO and the Palestinian Authority have, since 1993, consistently claimed that they accept a two state solution with Israel within what they call the "1967 borders."
Yet their maps consistently show a "Palestine" with no Israel.
Looking through recent photographs on Mahmoud Abbas' Facebook page, we see his receiving a report from the Palestinian Lands Authority which has a logo that erases Israel:
Here's Abbas lighting a torch to commemorate the anniversary of the PLO's founding, with the PLO logo that erases Israel:
Palestinian Media Watch has scores of examples of official Palestinian erasure of Israel.
Every major Palestinian political party has logos that erase Israel.
If they accept the two state solution, and insist that their borders are the "pre-1967" borders and nothing beyond, than what is their excuse for consistently erasing Israel from their maps?
I would say that their hypocrisy is stunning, but it isn't. It is business as usual.
Thursday, August 10, 2023
- Thursday, August 10, 2023
- Elder of Ziyon
- 1870, 1918, 1923, apartheid, apartheid lies, Arab apartheid, history, Lebanon, logical fallacy, maps of Palestine, whataboutism
I love when I tweet and the Israel haters are reduced to gibberish in response.
It doesn't include Lebanon but a great deal of Jordan is included in this map.
I had tweeted,
Proof #619 that calling Israel "apartheid" is antisemitic:Lebanon treats Palestinians worse than Israel by every conceivable yardstick. Discrimination is enshrined in law. Yet no one accuses Lebanon of "apartheid."
The responses from modern antisemites were all along the lines of:
"Whataboutism!" (meaning, don't talk about Palestinian suffering unless it can be blamed on Israel)
"You are a liar!" (without any links or proof)
"Of course it's apartheid - everyone says so!" (appeal to authority fallacy)
But a couple of people responded with something like, "Lebanon isn't occupying Palestinian territory!"
Are they sure?
Here's a map of Palestine from 1870:
It includes large amounts of todays Lebanon as well as much of today's Jordan.
How come no Palestinian is upset at the occupation of Lebanon and Jordan of Palestine?
But, you might respond, this is a Western map. Maybe Arabs felt that Palestine before 1923 included the exact borders of the British Mandate and no more.
Well, here is a 1918 map of Palestine, labeled as such, in Arabic:
Based on this map, it sure looks like at least Jordan is occupying ancient sacred Palestinian lands!
Why aren't we seeing Palestinians demanding "Free Palestine from Jordan and (maybe) Lebanon!"
Maybe for the same reason that the PLO in 1964 didn't claim the West Bank or Gaza as being part of "Palestine."
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