I've been spending way too much time in the messages discussing things with two Palestinian Arabs, and as usual I have too much to say. Others have chimed in as well.
I don't know how long I can keep this up, though. It is fun having a real thread for once in my messages but I prefer blogging - most of the stuff I am saying there I have said on the blog many times. Also, it is clear from the outset that no one will convince anyone else of anything, and I am familiar enough with the "other side's" arguments already. But it has been civil, and for those who want to jump in, I ask that it remains that way.
If you want to peek in, the threads are here.